Dubs, crappy packaging, and inferior R1s: What ADV et al will not tell you about why their products are epic fail

January 30, 2008 at 10:55 pm 6 comments


(I had an awesome post typed out and then WordPress ated it ;-;)

Don’t tell me I don’t know anything about the bloody debate about fansubs hurting the industry. I’ve read the arguments, waded through the flaming, read about Zac Berwhatshisname putting down animé blogs that do episode summaries, and waded through literally the TONS of FUD from BOTH SIDES about the whole bloody issue. Yes, even Arthur Smith and Justin Sevakis. I’ve heard enough utter nonsense and foolish chickenscratchings from both sides claiming this and that. You guys sicken me, arguing over absolutely nothing when the truth is just a Google search away.

Seriously, guys, is it too much to ask anyone to Google “Why are prices in Japan so DAMN high“? Oh wait. It IS too much to ask anyone on the Internets to Google for the truth.


You see, Japanese businessmen don’t think the same way as most businessmen do. Instead of going after the bottom line and going after massive profits, the Japanese businessman goes for MARKET SHARE. That’s right, they go for people buying their products instead of thinking about the money. And if that’s too complex for you, I’ll make to so that even a /b/tard gets it.

Not a Japanese Businessman: lol how much money can I suck out of the consumers’ wallets today lol
A Japanese Businessman: lol how many consumers can I  get to buy my products today lol

(Drm note: The term “consumer” is a very demeaning word used to desensitize businessmen from the truth that real people are buying their products. Don’t ever use it. EVER. I’m only using it here because I have to make this understandable to people.)

Where do fansubs fit into this mindset? Well, pro-industry rags say fansubs detract market share from the available DVDs whereas pro-fansub rags say that it creates the market share. While I do agree that fansubbers are getting overly huge egos, it just goes to show why we cannot have good things. The real question thus is this: Do fansubs create or destroy market share?

Let’s step out of this heated debate for a bit and look at a related industry: The music industry. Now, everyone knows about the RIAA  and their shenanigans, right? Suing people left and right and failing to get the profits and whatnot? Well, it turns out that people who downloaded tunes via KaZaa and Napster and the like (disregarding the fact that KaZaa had a ton of spyware…) actually bought the CDs the downloaded tunes came from. Ironically, in this case, the downloading of tunes actually increased the market share. That is, until Apple came in with their iTunes and iPods and messed with the system forever.

Using the example of the music industry, I can deduce that fansubs actually did create the market share, or at the very least, rapidly increased the market share for animé. Which in turn, made Japan very very shocked at this turn of events, and the realization of another market to exploit, since the domestic market had already been locked down and the money farm well-watered. In a sense, fansubs did create the market share for animé, at least in North America.

(To be honest, I’ve heard a different story for my own country. It was the humble TV and Cable that brought animé to the masses here, and that created the market share for animé here. Still, something has to explain the explosion of otaku culture and cosplay in the past 5-7 years, eh?)

Unfortunately, with great market share comes great demands. The Japanese would really much like you to waste your precious US dollars on their licenses, but they don’t want your “inferior” products crashing our well-watered money farm back home. so they will make some rather ridiculous demands in order to protect their money farm back at home. Stuff like “Oh noes your R1 DVD cover has to be crappier than our R2 DVD covers”, “lol no Japanese references in your R1 DVD”, “lol you must dub (this issue is highly debatable, and is most likely a business move to reach the greatest amount of customers, and not due to American imperialism, for those of you in the back)”, “lol no extras unless you pay double” and so on.

In short, ADV et al are being taken for a ride, and they’re under the impression that they are doing something good rather  than being suckers. And they’ll never know why they fell. (Japan 1, World -42) PT Barnum was right, there’s a sucker born every minute.

Do I think Justin Sevakis is right about how Japan should be more cooperative and work together with ADV et al for faster releases? I think he’s barking up the wrong tree. And so is everyone else. Unfortunately, we’re so comfortable barking up the wrong tree we would rather continue to bark up the wrong tree than to seek the truth.

Then again, who am I to stand in the way of mockers?  Carry on arguing about whether fansubs harm or help the industry. Continue flaming fansubbers for translating a certain term wrong, for bad quality video, for taking a shit in the woods, for doing something we don’t like. Continue huffing yourselves until you’re blue in the face about stupid semantics and whining about how fansubs suck. Carry on ARGUING OVER ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, YOU FAT FUCKS, BECAUSE YOU’D RATHER BARK UP THE WRONG TREE THAN SEEK THE TRUTH.

You all fucking suck. All of you. From ANN to Animesuki to anyone who keeps an animé blog to the fucking retards at 4chan. Even me. I fucking suck too. For not realizing this earlier.

Entry filed under: Bitching.

Not exactly breaking news: Something about cross-border litigation and copyrights. Sunohara has a sister, and Sunohara is a surname? Patrickness!

6 Comments Add your own

  • 1. Tyrenol  |  January 31, 2008 at 11:05 am

    In 50 years from now, when you have the chance to look back at your life… If the missed opportunities and the excuses you have for them outnumber your life accomplishments, then yes. There is definitely something wrong.

    Oh, and BOYCOTT BANDAI VISUAL USA. Any anime company that can’t provide English dubbing for anime titles doesn’t deserve to do business in the US.

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  • 2. Dm  |  February 1, 2008 at 12:47 am

    Good aricle. It seems we rely too much on Japan for our anime fix, although we could learn a LOT from their drawing style. By comparison, the United States’ anime culture is weak after all (or not strong enough). Potential is a different story.

    Dubs are okay, at best, for me, but I will say they help popular series a lot.

    If things get very bad, we can always learn to draw (HINT).

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  • 3. Tyrenol  |  February 1, 2008 at 3:47 am

    Drawing is not the problem.

    1) Not looking to pretentious and 2) getting accepted as a non-Japanese anime artist; these are a couple of large mountain ranges to overcome.

    I used to think Ben Dunn (of Ninja High School) was awesome until I found out that he likes to copy images of popular characters. Like he’s to lazy to differentiate characters and such.

    Yeah. I’d say that he ripped off Urusei Yatsura to the bone.

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  • 4. Macca  |  February 1, 2008 at 8:26 pm

    “Oh, and BOYCOTT BANDAI VISUAL USA. Any anime company that can’t provide English dubbing for anime titles doesn’t deserve to do business in the US.”
    It would have been perfectly acceptable to release undubbed DVDs if that would have lowered the price.
    As it turns out, it’s even more expensive than the usual anime R1 DVD so it’s a lose-lose situation for both dub and sub lovers.

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  • 5. Tyrenol  |  February 2, 2008 at 2:38 am

    You can go to any Best Buy (or online store) and have your prices knocked down a bit. But the problem for me is that the seemingly smart companies aren’t smart enough to listen to their (potential) customers.

    My question: Why get something out with any delay when you can just release it outisde of Japan and in America first? Ghost In The Shell? Afro-Samurai? Bueller?

    I stopped shrugging. That weak-sause society and their entertainment industry that promotes the “weak-sause” ideas through (late-night) anime. They should just go back home and stay there.

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  • 6. abao  |  February 3, 2008 at 9:33 pm

    yes… we all suck. thats why we have stagnated, with no one listening to what the other has to say.

    Reply

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